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PostSubject: Better framework for non-conflict miracles needed   Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:08 pm

I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring out the appropriate level (trivial-legendary) for miracles which are not made for conflicts. The book gives some example miracles, and a vague explanation of the differences between the levels with the example of flight, but I am constantly wanting some kind of reference to use when making miracles.

Some miracles, such as creating a gem/jar that stores souls, reversing the flow of a river, or making the stars in the sky out of your many eyes so that you can scry on the entire world, could fall into several different power levels. Their scale and whether they are innovation or alteration is clear, but we aren't given a way of determining the power of miracles beyond their effect on dice rolls. Of course, higher power levels would make for better dice, but I don't necessarily want to always be using this. Can anyone help me on this?
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PostSubject: Re: Better framework for non-conflict miracles needed   Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:43 am

Alternatively we could treat every situation which includes a miracle as some sort of conflict.

I like to imagine that the power level is simply defined how much goldly power would be needed to be exerted on the natural state of the world to do such a thing, so it would cost less for the same miracle to affect an unliving object than a living object in my rules for example say you wanted to change the colour of a brick wall, that is a trivial alteration, but its more difficult to change the colour of say a bird or othe ranimal because they are living creatures and their soul would subconciously object to this intrusion upon it.

Of course this brings up the fact that if someone is actively resisting a miracle, would it cost more points?

Oh dear you've got me thinking now.. haha
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PostSubject: Re: Better framework for non-conflict miracles needed   Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:24 am

We had this problem too. For example, what level of miracle is required to alter something on a genetic level so that it breeds true into future generations?
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